Bill Douglas talks to Chip Kidd and Lynda Barry and turns the old adage on its head.
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Lynda Barry has worked as a painter, cartoonist, writer, illustrator, playwright, editor, commentator, and teacher. She presents What it is, a book bursting with full-colour drawings, comics, and collages, autobiographical sections and gentle creative guidance.

Bill Douglas is the founder of The Bang, a multi-disciplinary studio specializing in book and publication design and has created works for dozens of publishers and hundreds of authors including Rawi Hage, Sheila Heti, Mark Kingwell, Ronald Wright, and Margaret Atwood.

Chip Kidd is a graphic designer, writer, and editor whose book jacket designs for Alfred A. Knopf revolutionized the art of American book packaging.